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		<title>By: Ricky Mondello</title>
		<link>http://lisasabin-wilson.com/wikipedia-and-homework-plagiarism/#comment-11362</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky Mondello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this post while googling &quot;plagiarizing Wikipedia&quot;, because I was curious to find out how plagiarism changes when you&#039;re not stealing from one author, but instead stealing from a collaborative, open source work like Wikipedia. I haven&#039;t yet found my answer, but this is a great blog post, so I&#039;ll throw in my two cents:

This last year I finished a ridiculous high school &#039;health&#039; class, which had a focus on research. The class itself was a joke, and I feel confident saying that as someone who considers himself an intellectual in training, because the teacher wasn&#039;t able to practice what she preached. She ranted almost daily about how plagiarism would end in severe consequences, but was never able to spot it. Meanwhile, I was able to. For example, the class had to work on different research projects and distribute their findings to the rest of the class. I found it odd when many student&#039;s documents used different fonts throughout, and had underlined hyperlinks. I kid you not, there were hyperlinks _everywhere_, a sure sign of very sloppy copying and pasting.

Furthermore, the teacher&#039;s PowerPoint presentations were taken straight from Wikipedia! How could I tell? She had underlined hyperlinks in her presentations. I even wrote down a sentence and googled it in quote to see where it came from. Low and behold, Wikipedia.

One day, I was sick of it and stayed after class to discuss this with her. I pointed out half a dozen examples of plagiarism from the latest round of research projects and how you can spot it, and all she simply said was, &quot;I didn&#039;t know that.&quot;

Today, none of the plagiarizing students were punished for their crimes. Now, that teacher has since taken a job at a great college, where she&#039;s sure to be making a great sum of money. I can&#039;t figure some things out.

Relevance to your daughter? Very little. But, I hope she and you are doing well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this post while googling &#8220;plagiarizing Wikipedia&#8221;, because I was curious to find out how plagiarism changes when you&#8217;re not stealing from one author, but instead stealing from a collaborative, open source work like Wikipedia. I haven&#8217;t yet found my answer, but this is a great blog post, so I&#8217;ll throw in my two cents:</p>
<p>This last year I finished a ridiculous high school &#8216;health&#8217; class, which had a focus on research. The class itself was a joke, and I feel confident saying that as someone who considers himself an intellectual in training, because the teacher wasn&#8217;t able to practice what she preached. She ranted almost daily about how plagiarism would end in severe consequences, but was never able to spot it. Meanwhile, I was able to. For example, the class had to work on different research projects and distribute their findings to the rest of the class. I found it odd when many student&#8217;s documents used different fonts throughout, and had underlined hyperlinks. I kid you not, there were hyperlinks _everywhere_, a sure sign of very sloppy copying and pasting.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the teacher&#8217;s PowerPoint presentations were taken straight from Wikipedia! How could I tell? She had underlined hyperlinks in her presentations. I even wrote down a sentence and googled it in quote to see where it came from. Low and behold, Wikipedia.</p>
<p>One day, I was sick of it and stayed after class to discuss this with her. I pointed out half a dozen examples of plagiarism from the latest round of research projects and how you can spot it, and all she simply said was, &#8220;I didn&#8217;t know that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Today, none of the plagiarizing students were punished for their crimes. Now, that teacher has since taken a job at a great college, where she&#8217;s sure to be making a great sum of money. I can&#8217;t figure some things out.</p>
<p>Relevance to your daughter? Very little. But, I hope she and you are doing well.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://lisasabin-wilson.com/wikipedia-and-homework-plagiarism/#comment-11361</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the first things that ALL my undergrad professors mentioned was that Wikipedia was not considered a valid source.  It always amazes me that people get to college and don&#039;t know how to do proper research.  I guess they didn&#039;t all have someone teaching them how to do it right in the first place.  Hard lesson to learn, but better from you than from the teacher!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the first things that ALL my undergrad professors mentioned was that Wikipedia was not considered a valid source.  It always amazes me that people get to college and don&#8217;t know how to do proper research.  I guess they didn&#8217;t all have someone teaching them how to do it right in the first place.  Hard lesson to learn, but better from you than from the teacher!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://lisasabin-wilson.com/wikipedia-and-homework-plagiarism/#comment-11360</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kind of how I look back now and wish that changing diapers was my biggest concern?  Yea - something like that  lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of how I look back now and wish that changing diapers was my biggest concern?  Yea &#8211; something like that  lol</p>
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		<title>By: Redfred</title>
		<link>http://lisasabin-wilson.com/wikipedia-and-homework-plagiarism/#comment-11359</link>
		<dc:creator>Redfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a couple of years you will look back and wish that plagarised homework was your biggest concern!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a couple of years you will look back and wish that plagarised homework was your biggest concern!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Astro</title>
		<link>http://lisasabin-wilson.com/wikipedia-and-homework-plagiarism/#comment-11358</link>
		<dc:creator>Astro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She hasn&#039;t come home with a stained dress lately, has she????? &gt;:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She hasn&#8217;t come home with a stained dress lately, has she????? >:)</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://lisasabin-wilson.com/wikipedia-and-homework-plagiarism/#comment-11357</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 04:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HOPE you would do something like that . . otherwise my membership in the Astro Fan Club would need to be re-thunk.  /:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HOPE you would do something like that . . otherwise my membership in the Astro Fan Club would need to be re-thunk.  /:)</p>
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		<title>By: Astro</title>
		<link>http://lisasabin-wilson.com/wikipedia-and-homework-plagiarism/#comment-11356</link>
		<dc:creator>Astro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 04:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see me doing something like that, can you?????? o:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see me doing something like that, can you?????? o:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://lisasabin-wilson.com/wikipedia-and-homework-plagiarism/#comment-11355</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Astro, you&#039;re not suggesting that honesty and ethics don&#039;t mix well with politics, are you?  :-&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astro, you&#8217;re not suggesting that honesty and ethics don&#8217;t mix well with politics, are you?  :-&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Astro</title>
		<link>http://lisasabin-wilson.com/wikipedia-and-homework-plagiarism/#comment-11354</link>
		<dc:creator>Astro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 03:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look on the bright side, maybe this is the start of a successful life in politics for her.  If so, you&#039;re only standing in her way by teaching her things like &quot;ethics&quot; and &quot;responsibility&quot;...:-?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look on the bright side, maybe this is the start of a successful life in politics for her.  If so, you&#8217;re only standing in her way by teaching her things like &#8220;ethics&#8221; and &#8220;responsibility&#8221;&#8230;:-?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://lisasabin-wilson.com/wikipedia-and-homework-plagiarism/#comment-11353</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>InkandPen - thanks for stopping by.  My daughter reads my site once in awhile and I pointed her to your response here to show her an explaination from a teachers point of view.  I know she&#039;s learned a lesson.. and understands why it was wrong and dishonest.

Really, students do themselves NO favors by plagiarising homework, research projects, or anything else.  Even if they don&#039;t get caught (and in todays world of technology, getting away with it is much hard then it used to be!) - they are doing two things to themselves:

1.  Getting by dishonestly
2.  Not really learning anything at all

Thank you for your comments.  I feel better about this than I did the other night when I wrote it.  I don&#039;t want to make her feel stupid - but on the other hand, she needs to know how crucial my point was on it.   :)&gt;-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>InkandPen &#8211; thanks for stopping by.  My daughter reads my site once in awhile and I pointed her to your response here to show her an explaination from a teachers point of view.  I know she&#8217;s learned a lesson.. and understands why it was wrong and dishonest.</p>
<p>Really, students do themselves NO favors by plagiarising homework, research projects, or anything else.  Even if they don&#8217;t get caught (and in todays world of technology, getting away with it is much hard then it used to be!) &#8211; they are doing two things to themselves:</p>
<p>1.  Getting by dishonestly<br />
2.  Not really learning anything at all</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments.  I feel better about this than I did the other night when I wrote it.  I don&#8217;t want to make her feel stupid &#8211; but on the other hand, she needs to know how crucial my point was on it.   <img src='http://lisasabin-wilson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> >-</p>
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